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July 3, 2008
AMD 780G/780V/740G Integrated Socket AM2+ ChipsetsHybrid CrossFire and High-Definition video. July 2, 2008
AMD Phenom X4 In Real-Life ApplicationsHow memory speed affects CPU performance. June 28, 2008
Corsair Dominator DDR2-1142 (PC2-9136) 4GB KitHigh capacity, high frequency and Green design. June 27, 2008
Foxconn GeForce 9800 GTX / GX2 2x512MBReference cards in nice boxes. June 26, 2008
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 896MBWhat does it offer for 399 USD? June 25, 2008
AMD Phenom X3 8750Stakes on the odd. June 23, 2008
NVIDIA nForce 790i and Intel X48 ChipsetsTransition to DDR3, 1600 MHz FSB support, fully-fledged PCI-E 2.0. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 1024MBWill it outperform 9800 GX2? (Updated: now also with synthetic test results.) June 17, 2008
x64 CPU Performance Testing MethodologyVersion 3.0. June 16, 2008
i3DSpeed, May 2008Added test results for 2 x GeForce 9800 GX2 Quad SLI. |
CONTENTS
The summer has reached its peak, people go on leave and have plenty of time to think about their PCs upgrade. NVIDIA's partners have finally started shipping so long awaited video cards based on the GeForce FX 5900. It's not a problem to find what to spend the holiday fee for :-). What to choose: RADEON 9800 PRO or GeForce FX 5900? The question is not simple. If you look at the list of our reviews of the NV3x technologies have a closer look at the latest ones. Theoretical materials and reviews of video cards which concern
functional properties of the GPU
The previous review judged NVIDIA and its latest products pretty tough. Well, the Californian company likes to play with cheats in popular benchmarks like 3DMark03/2001. NVIDIA affirms that video cards based on its processors have no cheats for certain scenes-benchmarks in games. There are only optimizations for games on the whole. Our previous review where we tested the cards with our own demo scenes threw the GeForce FX 5900 off the throne; this card falls behind the RADEON 9800 PRO in many cases though in the standard benchmarks that either are popular or come with respective games the FX 5900 kept the leading position. Was that because of the cheats or something else? But we can't be fully sure accusing NVIDIA in such cheats. We can just state that the picture has changed. The experts at NVIDIA didn't mention the Code Creatures BenchMark Pro, though the Anti-Detect reveals some cheats. Why exactly cheats, not optimizations? Because there is no such game. This is just a benchmark, though it's based on a gaming engine. It means that any changes made by the driver will contradict to what's planned by the benchmark developers. It also refers to the AquaMark, that is why we don't use this benchmark anymore. However, we found no cheats for the Unreal II. It's strange because the game was released quite a while ago, and the UT2003 and the Unreal II have the same engine. The UT2003 has "optimizations" according to NVIDIA, and the Unreal II doesn't have such. Isn't it because the Unreal II doesn't have internal and open benchmarks? The UT2003 does have them. Think about it. Anyway, now the cards are tested in new closed demo benchmarks that protect from cheats but support all useful optimizations made for games on the whole. Even if the FX 5900 will be a bit slower than its competitor with the prices being equal, users will ask for it anyway, because the name of the GeForce is pretty popular, plus accessories, card design etx If one pays $400-450 for a card, it shouldn't be just a wrapped piece of textolite. The today's hero has an excellent accessory pack and an interesting cooler. The company itself was founded yet in 1984. At that time it was named CHUN and dealt with TV technologies. The company gradually expanded its marketplace and opened new branches. In 2002 , when the directors changed, the company was renamed into Albatron Technology. The reestablished company focused on production of mainboards and video cards. Albatron is pretty young as a video card vendor. But its quality and original devices have gained authority on our market. Today we have a very interesting card for examination named Albatron Gigi GeForce FX 5900 128MB
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| Albatron Gigi GeForce FX 5900PV 128MB | ![]() |
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AGP x8/x4/x2 interface, 128 MB DDR SDRAM in 8 chips on the front
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Hynix memory chips of 2.2ns access time, which corresponds to 454 (908) MHz. The memory works at 425 (850) MHz, the GPU runs at 400 MHz. 256bit memory interface. |
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| Comparison with the reference design, front view | |
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| Comparison with the reference design, back view | |
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This is the first time when the card ships in a black stylish bag (which can be then used for other purposes). It easily turns into a backpack (the straps are in a special pocket behind). In its largest section is a big chunk of polyurethane foam which encompasses the card itself. All components are in the other sections. |
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![]() If you take off the cardboard cover from the bag, you will see the embroidered logo and the company's name. Now the accessories: |
| Albatron Gigi GeForce FX 5900PV 128MB | |
| User Guide, CD with drivers and utilities, PowerDVD, game, VIVO s/w, TV extenders, DVI-to-d-Sub adapter, VIVO splitter. | ![]() |
Testbed and driversTestbed:
VSync off, S3TC off in applications. Cards used for comparison:
Overclocking |
| Albatron Gigi GeForce FX 5900PV 128MB | 400/850 -> 470/940 MHz (excellent overclocking!) |
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Note that:
![]() overclocking depends on a sample, and you shouldn't generalize the results of one card to all video cards of this trade mark or series. The overclocking results are not the obligatory characteristics of video cards. Test resultsBefore we start examining 2D quality, I should say there are no complete techniques for objective 2D quality estimation because:
With the ViewSonic P817 monitor and BNC Bargo cable the card showed excellent quality at the following resolutions and clock speeds:
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| Albatron Gigi GeForce FX 5900PV 128MB | 1600x1200x85Hz, 1280x1024x120Hz, 1024x768x160Hz |
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In general, the 2D quality is excellent (the quality of this sample in our conditions). Test results: cards' performanceConventional signs: ANISO 8xP - Anisotropic 8x Performance (earlier it was called Balanced), ANISO 8xQ - Anisotropic 8x Quality, ANISO 16xQ - Anisotropic 16x Quality. Test applications:
If you want to get the demo benchmarks that we use let me know by e-mail. Today we also studied the difference between official release of the drivers v44.03 and latest beta version (WHQL) 44.71. Quake3 Arena
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The drivers show no difference. The FX 5900 wins from the RADEON 9800 PRO in the heavy modes at the expense of AA and Performance-level anisotropy (we compare this anisotropy level of the GeForce FX with the Quality level of the RADEON 9800 because in this case both functions have some reductions: a lower anisotropy degree for certain angles in case of ATI, and simpler trilinear filtering and anisotropy on far textures in case of NVIDIA; that is why their pluses and minuses are more or less balanced, though we also compare Quality levels of both cards for those who are sure that ATI's "crippled" anisotropy paired with the normal trilinear filtering should be compared only to NVIDIA's normal anisotropy). Serious Sam: The Second Encounter
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() No difference between the drivers again (note that the 3DMark03 demonstrates a noticeable difference. Think again what the 3DMark03 measures indeed). Again, the FX5900 outdoes the RADEON 9800 PRO in the heavy mode with the AA and performance-level anisotropy, but loses to the latter in the light modes. Return to Castle Wolfenstein (Multiplayer)
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() If you remember, all GeForce FX cards were much behind their competitors starting from the drivers 43.00 to 44.03, and only with the drivers 44.65 the programmers have cured that. Note that the rise wasn't caused by the cheats in the standard Chechpoint demo because in our case the scores grow up as well. In the fight against the RADEON 9800 PRO NVIDIA's baby wins again only in the modes with AA and Performance-level anisotropy. Code Creatures
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The difference in the drivers is considerable. Up to the driver v44.71 the anisotropy didn't work in this test. I demonstrated that last time. Starting from the v44.71 this function works correctly, hence such a performance drop. By the way, it shows the approximate performance consumed by this function in this test. It looks verisimilar because there are a lot of polygons and surfaces to be processed (but maybe it's better to optimize it as one would hardly notice anisotropy on the vertically growing grass). The card beats the RADEON 9800 PRO only in case of AA and a little in case of the AA+Anisotropy Performance. Unreal Tournament 2003
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The new version has lifted up the scores a little. The RADEON 9800 PRO takes the lead in all modes except the Performance-level anisotropy. Unreal II: The Awakening
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() RightMark, a packet richest in shaders, demonstrates how weak shader units are of the FX 5900. No difference in the drivers. |
ConclusionWe can see that the guys at NVIDIA do listen to the testers and reviewers. The performance level in the RtCW is lifted up and anisotropy in the Code Creatures is repaired. In the fight of the FX 5900 and the RADEON 9800 PRO NVIDIA's solution loses in most cases but both cards can be considered more or less equal. Why equal? As I mentioned already, for $400 a user wants a high-quality and perfectly packed and equipped product. ATI's products are usually deprived of such nice frills. It's still very pleasant to get a video card with an interesting and useful cooling system, owners of transparent PC cases will be glad seeing a radiating card; also it's nice to get a bag instead of just a wrapped card! Note that many other NVIDIA partners equip their cards with so splendid accessory packs and packages. Also remember that none of the RADEON 9700/9800 based cards have the VIVO support. The Albatron Gigi GeForce FX 5900PV 128MB can give you:
Let me point it out once again that the FX 5900 and RADEON 9800 PRO cards are approximately equal. It's for you to choose. In future complicated shader-filled games ATI's cards can have more prospects, but when should we expect such games? When the FX 5900 and R9800PRO become the mainstream solutions? At that time the difference will be lacking at all. Besides, the pricecut rates should be also accounted for. If the FX 5900 is cheaper than the RADEON 9800 PRO, the choice won't be so difficult. In closing I should say that the reviewers are not guilty that ATI and NVIDIA have released similar products with their advantages and disadvantages. That is why do not try to accuse us of any adherence using our "for" or "against" comments. It's typical of fans but not of honest reviewers. I can't choose between the RADEON 9800 PRO and the FX 5900 or recommend one or another processor. As to cards, I like everything beautiful. That's my weakness. Like in the review of the Hercules 3D Prophet 9800 PRO I voted for this card because it's a real masterpiece among all R9800 models. And I like this Albatron's very much. I'm sure many of those who use High-End products would support me (I again reproach those vendors who pay no attention to accessories, package types and cards' design. Except Hercules RADEON 9800 PRO we have seen no cards from ATI partners which would have a design different from the reference one. In our 3Digest you can find full comparison characteristics for video cards of this and other classes.
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July 3, 2008
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